5-Year-Old Cape Cod Student Could be Suspended for Making Lego Gun
A five-year-old Hyannis elementary school student could face suspension after making a lego gun during an after school program. What do you think? Does the punishment fit the crime?
The Hyannis West Elementary after school program sent a letter home to Joseph Cardosa’s parents last week explaining that Cardosa had used toys inappropriately during the program, according to FOX 25.
The letter also stated that if Cardosa received a second warning he would be suspended from the after school care program for two weeks.
Sheila Cruz, Joseph’s mother, told FOX 25 the warning is going too far and that redirection would have been sufficient.
We want to know what you think? Is the after school program being too sensitive or is the warning appropriate?
Mark ONeill
9:51 am on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
I think the warning is appropriate. Were is a five year old learning about guns??? I think a messege needs to be sent.
Hopefulforchange
11:09 am on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
They are learning it from the news, from cartoons, from most television shows. Five year old's know and pay attention to things we don't realize. Toy guns and little children making guns with their fingers have always been around in my lifetime. It used to be cowboys and Indians. Nobody punished a little boy for playing that.
Adolf Schmidt
11:26 am on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
You right! If he had lego bullets, it could have been a disaster!
Theresa-Lee A Palega
1:34 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
seriously, what about when little girls play with baby dolls, are they future teen moms? let's take those away too..
Keandre Sproggins
2:12 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
I think you need spell check. Those red squiggly lines at the bottom of your letters are supposed to grab your attention to a mistake. Where did you learn to spell. I bet you are a grown man, in body only, still living in your mom's basement.
Bob`Lister
10:13 am on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
I agree with the warning completely, Kids need to know that no form of guns or weapons are allowed in school. With the gun and violence problems we have these days a toy gun could get a child shot.
Theresa-Lee A Palega
1:36 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
when you play sports your body is a weapon.... no sports, put everyone in their own square and have them move in a non-violent fashion. maybe they can just skip b/c jumping rope seems really dangerous. you could hang someone with a rope.
Keandre Sproggins
2:17 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
It wasn't a gun or a weapon. You idiot did you know your keyboard can be a weapon so you should throw it away immediately before you hurt yourself.
Aaron Bennett
10:38 am on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
What is the matter with you people? Idiotic adults need to learn the difference between guns and legos.
Legos == not guns.
Robert Gurwitch
1:44 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
I agree with you 100%
Taryn Thoman
11:17 am on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
I agree. Is there a written policy against Lego guns at HyWest? Any five year old near a television these days will be exposed to images of gun violence on a daily basis. There should be a school-wide conversation with written follow up to parents, in 20 languages if necessary, about the need to educate kids on this issue. Five year olds mimick the things they are exposed to. Parents and schools need to work together. It appears that the school is more worried about covering their institution than enlightening minds. It's no wonder parents are turning to charter and private schools at an unprecedented rate.
Larry Back
11:53 am on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
Just one more example of miss guided political correctness! Next we'll expel the kids for pointing their index fingers and saying bang when they are playing war or heaven forbid cowboys and Indians. Ya, I know both are not PC, so sue me that's what we do best. Keep the lawyers employed, remember we have more of them as a percentage of our population than any other country yet afe far from the safest!
Mark Lewis
5:03 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
It is already happening. My 4 year old got a warned for making a gun with his finger and playing cops and robbers.
Robert Bastille
12:00 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
Duh! If Lego Guns are outlawed, only Outlaws will have LEGO GUNS! (People in favor of more Lego control are all a bunch of self-righteous idiots! And these morons are possibly 'teaching' our children?)
Slaqueur
12:06 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
If you constantly try to fix it so that your kids are never hurt, scared, disturbed, exposed to the unpleasantness of life, you are going to have MAJOR problems with them. Prepare your CHILD for the road ahead. Do not strive to prepare the ROAD ahead FOR your child. Some of us are trying to walk it as is. And doing fine.
Unfiltered Steve Simoneau
11:55 am on Wednesday, January 30, 2013
Seriously, "Prepare your child for the road ahead instead of trying to prepare the road for your child" is some of the best parenting advice I've seen in a long time. Bravo.
Robert Bastille
12:09 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
Maybe they should be teaching Lego Gun safety courses instead of messing with kids just trying to be kids. I'm sure glad I taught my daughter that most public school teachers are complete "PC" idiots! She's studying to be a doctor and loves to exercise her right to shoot real guns exactly because she took what some of what her idiotic teachers professed with a grain of salt.
Cher Munsart
12:12 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
How crazy is that? He is 5 has no one ever played cops and robbers or cowboys and Indians. Suspension is way over the limit. Just tell the little guy not to make guns in Lego club or school and be done with it.
Robert Bastille
12:23 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
If you want your kids to be successful free thinkers who are safe, don't send them to public schools.... especially in Massachusetts. (and if you absolutely have to send them to public schools, vigilantly DE-program them with alternative points of view on a daily basis... don't expect the public schools to teach them what they will really need to be successful... in fact, count on public schools indoctrinating your kids with their own political agendas when they should be focusing on skills and the freedoms guaranteed in the Constitution... trust me, most school teachers DO NOT know how to raise your children better than you)
Taryn Thoman
12:45 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
My father had two gun cabinets filled with pistols, rifles and shotguns. He taught each of his seven kids how to shoot and respect firearms at an early age, thereby removing any mystery or romantic ideas about guns. I'm teaching my son as I was taught. It's ridiculous to hail 18 year old American soldiers as heroes for killing people with guns but punishing five year olds for wanting to make a fake replica of the hero's weapon. There are no easy answers, but punishing a kid who is only two years out of diapers for a natural expression of his world is counter-educational.
justamom
12:07 am on Wednesday, January 30, 2013
agree with you 100%, my dad had a gun cabinet that stood tall and proud, and we grew up respecting firearms also, and the lesson has been passed on to my three sons, and now to my grand children. They all played with toy guns and not one grew up to be a killer, but they all respect firearms......
Robert Bastille
1:00 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
You're a good mom Taryn. I know your child won't grow up to be a brain-washed public school zombie... I feel bad for this 5 year old... hopefully he has parents or someone that will step up and explain to him that the teacher that is bullying him and squelching his creativity is absolutely full of horse-[bleeb]! Poor kid.... HE'S FIVE!... we played with toy guns and shot real rifles in my 'hood... several of us went into law enforcement, one FBI agent... some soldiers... but most of us went on be successful in other fields with a healthy knowledge and respect for firearms... it's scary that such limited minded ignorant union kool aid drinkers are teaching our kids!
Taryn Thoman
1:15 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
Thanks, Rob. Congrats on your daughter's many successes!
Taryn Thoman
1:10 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
The HyWest principal is new, and looks to me to be about 12 years old. Considering the demographics of kids in her school, it's quite possible the parents won't even have the language skills to address the problem with the school.
It is Catholic schools week, and we have three great ones here on Cape covering every grade. We bailed on public schools after 4th grade when it became obvious the system is broken.
Taryn Thoman
1:14 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
Now is the time to apply to Catholic or charter schools. Financial aid is available both through the diocese and directly through the school in some cases. Kids grow too fast to waste time fighting schools on stupidity like this.
Robert Bastille
1:23 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
Amen. ;)
fleagle1
2:55 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
Do they have glue guns at school? They should ban those too. Think of the message they send.
Taryn Thoman
3:48 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
So true. Glue guns are gateway guns to squirt guns, which may easily lead to Nerf guns, which are highly addictive!
Johnicus
3:23 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
"While someone might think that suspending a 5 year old is justified in the name of political correctness, to other 5-year-olds, that might be a scary experience."
Tim from the Bog
5:27 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
Nothing more than the on going indoctrination.
Robert Bastille
8:51 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
Here's the real story.... what is wrong with playing with toy guns? Nothing... it puts nobody in danger and is part of our culture and heritage...
Did the 5 year old harm anyone? No.
Could his Lego "gun" harm anyone? No
Did he have live Lego bullits? No.
Are the "educators" being idiotic? YES.
Were there any kids scared by the Lego gun?
If so, the real problem is not the Legos.... it's kids being scared by unrealistic threats...
This is just another example as to why parents need to avoid "public schools..."
This poor 5 year old boy is being bullied by IDIOTS!
These 'educators' are not pyschologically fit to be working with children!
Abusive Bullies!
Canadianmama
9:25 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
So let me get this straight.... It is perfectly ok for adults to militantly defend their right to bear arms, own any gun they want, and even carry a concealed weapon; but none of this is supposed to influence our children? Children are never supposed to discuss guns until they turn the magical age of 18 when it is suddenly ok to start carrying a REAL weapon. Make up your mind and get real. Kids are going to model what they see and hear from their role models... adults!
Maisy 56
9:38 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
Why was this child's name published?
Mark Lewis
12:41 pm on Wednesday, January 30, 2013
My assumption would be that the parents brought the story to the news and his name was included in that. But, I do agree it should not have been published, even if they have it.
alfred e neuman
10:08 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
This is the town of Barnstable after all certainly we can't expect common sense to apply .
justamom
11:59 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
This world is going crazy... really suspend a child for playing with a LEGO GUN... how are children suppose to play cowboys and indians? or is that now politically incorrect? Can they play with a toy bow and arrow? because that is a weapon? or what about a toy car? because if you use the car inappropriately it could run over the lego man holding the lego gun and then it could be a legocide... So I guess we should just make our children sit in chairs and read...but wait... There are so many books that are politically incorrect now, we can't have them read Christmas stories, or ones that talk about violence, sex or racial inequality so that leaves the newspaper out....OMG, our poor children must just sit, they are up against idiotic educators that have years of education but lack common sense.
Amy Sol
9:36 am on Wednesday, January 30, 2013
To Justamom,
I believe it would be Horse ranchers and Native Americans. Poor Santa, he can't even smoke his pipe anymore. The "new" versions of The Night Before Christmas can't include the sentence "the smoke it encircled his head like a wreath". He probably shouldn't eat cookies any more either because it could encourage childhood obesity. Everyone should just stay in bed to be safe! Oh but wait.. .those bed bugs... :o
TRW
6:37 am on Wednesday, January 30, 2013
Adults who cannot tell the difference between a child playing with toys and a true threat to their safety should not be allowed around schools.
This is one of the most idiotic things I've read in months. If this were my school district, I would seriously push to get these "educators" away from my kids.
Robert Bastille
10:26 am on Wednesday, January 30, 2013
AMEN!
Taryn Thoman
10:50 am on Wednesday, January 30, 2013
Barnstable parents are doing so in record numbers.
Amy Sol
9:32 am on Wednesday, January 30, 2013
Although I realize the school probably had to make some sort of statement to the child about the gun not being appropriate in school... suspension is RIDICULOUS! Since the beginning of time boys have played cowboys and Indians, army men, cops and robbers etc.I work in a preschool and boys by nature find things to be guns... sticks, blocks, etc. I constantly tell them that they NEVER EVER point the guns at each other (if they do, the object is taken away), and you can never ever point guns at people. I hope this boy grows up to be a designer for Winchester and makes himself some big $$ . I am a mom, and a teacher and I oppose guns in general, but I don't think there is anything wrong with using your imagination to build ANYTHING... and I don't think kids who use Legos to make guns will become mass murderers in the future. TALK to the children, do not threaten and punish them!
Robert Bastille
10:58 am on Wednesday, January 30, 2013
If our soldiers or police all carried Lego guns we'd be screwed! There is nothing wrong with guns... (Guns are an important part of culture and heritage.... not to mention being protected under the constitution... that's pretty important stuff) but a ban on hammers is something to look at... yes I said hammers... according to recent FBI statistics, you are more likely to be murdered with a hammer than a rifle... how many kinder kids are banging away with those plastic toy hammers right now as we speak? Maybe the IDIOTS in the Barnstable Schools need to be focusing measures to protect kids from hammers! They can join up with the police and sponsor a hammer buy-back program to take hammers off the streets.... then they can pass their "knowledge" on to the building department so we can have a town wide ban on hammers and any project requiring these dangerous weapons. Next we can have a candle light vigil on the town green to mourn all the unnecessary hammer deaths... How many more will be murdered by hammers.... I'm a teacher too... and I oppose HAMMERS! (and don't get me started on forks... 400,000 die every year from obesity... oh nooooooooooooo!) Of course I'm just being facetious...
Taryn Thoman
1:53 pm on Wednesday, January 30, 2013
"If I had a Hammer" was one of the first songs I played in Folk Mass in the early 70's. I wonder if it's been banned from I-tunes yet!
Robert Bastille
11:03 am on Wednesday, January 30, 2013
teachers and government need to stop banning and censoring free Americans PERIOD. They need to stop picking on 5 year olds and do their jobs... I hope the all “educators” involved are reading this piece of advice: “You need to apologize to that child and his family... then you need to pack your pencils and elitist ideas about how to brainwash our children... pack all that BS into you little environmental friendly green-mobiles and leave town. US History is what it is... and yes, it involved lots of guns to protect our rights and freedoms... I'm proud of that. You apparently are not. Move to England where you belong.” P.S. THAT FIVE YEAR OLD BOY THAT YOU ARE TORTURING WILL HAVE TO REGISTER FOR THE DRAFT/ SELECTIVE SERVICE AT AGE 18 TO DEFEND HIS COUNTRY.... SHOW HIM SOME RESPECT.. IF HE WANTS TO PLAY WITH LEGO GUNS AT HIS AGE TO FEEL GOOD ABOUT WHO HE IS, WHO ARE YOU TO CENSOR HIS CREATIVITY?
Unfiltered Steve Simoneau
12:16 pm on Wednesday, January 30, 2013
The real threat here isn't a child using creative toys to build a toy gun.
The threat is that the school is willing to punish a child for being a child.
The after school program teacher/supervisor should be fired and replaced with someone who has the capacity to understand the mind of a 5 year-old. Praise the boy for being creative, then gently explain that guns hurt people and a school is a place for learning and caring.
Mark Lewis
12:32 pm on Wednesday, January 30, 2013
Don't demonize the gun, that has an agenda as well. You explain to them that toy guns are not allowed at school, that's how it is. My 4 year old understands this perfectly. Some toys are inside toys, some are outside, some are for at home, some are for at school.
Unfiltered Steve Simoneau
2:42 pm on Wednesday, January 30, 2013
No demonizing Mark, the #1 purpose of a firearm throughout history is to convey harm upon an animal or person at a distance, and that is EXACTLY what children should be taught. Firearms were not invented for target practice, competitive shooting or for playing.
The argument that "I have guns for protection" simply means be prepared to do harm first if you are threatened with harm. That is completely acceptable.
Kudos to you for taking the time to explain toy etiquette to your child, many parents fail to recognize the importance of such things.
Mark Lewis
2:53 pm on Wednesday, January 30, 2013
The gun itself doesn't do anything on it's own is more my perspective, no more than a knife or an axe does. I would rather teach a young child that they CAN be dangerous and MUST be respected than telling them that their purpose is to cause harm. While, yes, that is a predominate use of them, we should be teaching that any dangerous item is not allowed at school to keep people from getting hurt. That helps them learn that the problem isn't the item in and of itself. In turn, it keeps them from asking mom or dad why they have a gun when all the do is hurt and forcing the parent to re-teach them and put them at odds with the school or teacher. It also encourages them to think about other items that might be dangerous and appropriate places and uses for them. More critical thinking than blindly following rules.
I do try VERY hard to make sure he is polite and respectful of EVERYONE, adults, other children and associated rules. Just because you can do XYZ at Mom's that doesn't mean you can do XYZ at Dad's, same goes for school, other peoples houses, etc. He's not perfect, but I think that it's a good start. Thank you for the kind words.
Robert Bastille
12:52 pm on Wednesday, January 30, 2013
I just saw this little boys photo with his mom... he looks like a very bright child... here's something nobody is talking about... did anyone ever consider that having a toy gun in some way may actually comfort this child in light of recent school shootings? As a teacher I have seen many little boys use toys to make them feel more secure.... this boy probably knows full well that his teachers are not prepared to defend him should some nut walk in with a real weapon... smart boy being punished for being realistic? who knows.. I hope he gets better teachers soon.
Mark Lewis
2:33 pm on Wednesday, January 30, 2013
Interesting thought but I doubt that he does. He is old enough to know that one is a toy, the other is real. I understand children seeking comfort in toys, but I would expect him to use something more "functional" even if a toy, like a sword or something, or making a bulletproof vest, something that the difference between a real one and a toy one is less apparent.
Taryn Thoman
2:09 pm on Wednesday, January 30, 2013
It's abusive to instill so much fear in our very young children. If it's going to remain PC to ban toy guns fine. Ban stupid threats as well. Redirect the child's attention to another activity, and talk to the child about having concern for others. It's what we do in polite society. It's not dangerous to swear or fart in public, but we generally avoid it out of consideration for others' feelings. I suppose Lego guns in aftercare could be explained the same way, but suspension or any other punishment is going too far.
Hopefulforchange
6:55 pm on Wednesday, January 30, 2013
It's actually nice to see a story on here that actually makes people want to respond to it. Doesn't happen very often on Cape Cod news stories. I'm also glad to see so many rational adult responses instead of everyone being politically correct.
Tayla
7:41 pm on Wednesday, January 30, 2013
This child is 5 and obviously doesn't understand guns are dangerous and inappropriate for school or in general. And for people who say this child should get suspended is absurd because guns are EVERYWHERE now! From tv shows, childs cartoons, even the news!! Kids heard about the guns specially with the horrible day at Sandy Hook, since parents watch the news and the children are there to listen... So whoever thinks they should be suspended think AGAIN!!!!!
Bruce Stuart
11:00 am on Thursday, January 31, 2013
Missing the point. A kid making a toy gun and pointing it is one thing.... A kid being told to stop doing something that is disruptive is totally another.
Mark Lewis
1:18 pm on Thursday, January 31, 2013
Nice try, but the problem was that he made a lego gun, not that he was being disruptive.
Taryn Thoman
12:11 pm on Thursday, January 31, 2013
The warning said the boy "used toys I appropriately". It was only after the mother went to the press that the administration made a villain out if the 5 yr old. The good news is that mom may have a new multi-age charter school to send her son to in a year or so.
Mark Lewis
1:19 pm on Thursday, January 31, 2013
I would say sending a letter home for making a lego gun, which is what he did when he "used toys inappropriately" was making him a villain. Everything in the news story was exactly what the school did before the news story, otherwise, it couldn't be in the news story.
Mark Lewis
1:19 pm on Thursday, January 31, 2013
For those interested, you can write this "Principal at Amato_Kathi@barnstable.k12.ma.us and let her know your thoughts.
Taryn Thoman
1:26 pm on Thursday, January 31, 2013
Now the superintendent is saying the reprimand had nothing to do with the gun, but the boy's repeated bad behaviors towards other children. The fact that she talked about Sandy Hook Elementary as part of her response to the reprimand damages the credibility of her story, and by association, administrators at HyWest.
Mark Lewis
1:31 pm on Thursday, January 31, 2013
I see. Yeah, I agree.
Robert Bastille
1:02 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013
NICE TRY Czajkowski! Are you kidding me? We're talking about about a 5 year old making a "gun" out of LEGOS and making shooting sounds? Did he go “bang bang?” or did he go “Pooosh Pooosh?” -whatever it was, it must have been 'terrifying" for both you and your staff - perhaps counseling for a major post traumatic event is in order. GIVE ME A BREAK! And it astounds me that you'd rather take the side of one of your full grown adult teachers (and why don't you release his/her name?) than to realize that you're dealing with a very normal 5 year-old child! Show me one red-blooded American who has not done the same thing while playing! This child did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING wrong and you are projecting your inadequacies onto this very young and innocent kid. Do we know live in a culture where the only thing some insecure "educators" can do to rationalize their inability to keep children safe is to pick on the very children they serve... c'mon, give me a freakin' break! this child has been harassed by both you and your 'teachers' and you know it! I've said it before, and I'll say it again, you owe this child and his family and friends a sincere apology... until that happens you can expect zero support from me and other members of the community... have you ever considered how this boy's classmates feel? knowing that they can be singled out and chastised and threatened just for expressing themselves in a playful manner? You all make me sick. Shame on you.